Yuki Itakura
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Posted - 2008.01.02 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Yuki Itakura on 02/01/2008 11:07:00
So
X war decs Y.
Y joins alliance.
Y leaves alliance to avoid war with X.
Hmmm...
Industry corp joins Merc alliance for protection, providing Merc corp ships and weapons to do so at reasonable rates.
Merc corp joins Industrial alliance to be protection, or for supply of ships and/or modules to further their actions.
"We can't fight this war, can you take it for us?" Something goverments and corporations have been doing for a long time.
I do think it's a bit lame that a corporation would join iMune, and then leave right after to avoid it. I mean if it's a mining corp looking for protection, then they should be providing iMune with the means to fight the war.
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but can't X corp declare war on Y, then X join an alliance, X leaves alliance dropping thier war with Y? Then Y would be stuck in a war with an alliance? Then Y could join an alliance then leave, leaving the original war dec with that alliance?
Now we are back at the start. X war dec's Y, Y joins alliance.......
I thought the basics were this.
0.0 = It's on. Big corporations and Alliance turf wars. Destroy them, they destroy you. Along with great resources and other faction stuff. Don't like it leave. 
0.1 - 0.4 = Grey area. Minimum rules, kill people, lose standings, don't fly with what you can't afford to lose, or take protection.
0.5 -1.0 = "Relatively safe". Industrial corps trying to make a mark, police protection, pirates, gate camps, suicide runs, new pilots trying to figure things out.
The bounderies of what happens in each basic sector is elastic at best. If you look at the big picture Eve is by far one the best thought out games ever. Different races, factions, corporations, can pretty much do what you want here. Eve is HUGE.
I don't think what iMune is doing is "cheating", but I'm not condoning it either. I think what they are doing by not making any money from it is pretty stupid, and over all being a bunch of pansies.
Like I said I don't think it's cheating, maybe swindled or cheated out of what you wanted. The real world isn't perfect, neither is Eve, thats what makes it great. People, corporations, goverments, even animals "exploit" or "cheat" everyday for survival. Can anyone really say they have never cheated, lied or exploited to their own advantage? Probably not.
With 37k pilots (did I see 39k today) Eve is not getting any smaller. A far cry from the few thousand I used to see on a Saturday night, when I bought the game off the shelf when it first came out.
X war decs Y. Neither X nor Y can join alliance. That's boring. So if you are the small corp and huge corp wants to crush you, and you know that you have no chance in beating them, what would you do?
Would you still be calling cheating if they had joined an alliance and stayed there and that alliance could crush you back into NPC corp land?
The fix should be a set time the corp has to be in alliance anyway. Or if the corp joins bringing thier war into the alliance, then decides to leave (withing a set period), money from that corporation should go to the corporation that started it, declaring it a financial victory and the pansie corp takes the loss, financially and on thier record.
The post by the GM saying it's cheating, and the bughunter saying it's not. Isn't CCP a rather small in the terms of corporate numbers? It seems that the checks and balances part isn't working. If a bughunter answered the petition wouldn't he have a guidline of the game rules, and the GM with the same guideline?
Makes you wonder doesn't it?
All in the spirit of Eve.
Posted with an alt, for security reasons.
Sorry about your loss. If they don't want to be war declared, they should go back under a rock and stay crushed. But if they took all the politics out of it, then we would basically be playing deathmatch.
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